Fics where Spock has a child (
with anyone, let’s not go over that weird shit that is mpreg)
How did you guys pass biology101?
Hybrids originating from different species can not reproduce? That’s like, basic facts… (did everyone just forgot about mules?)
On the other hand I have to admit that it is supposed to be science-fiction but, come on! at least indicate a good explanation for it!
Ok I haven’t read any of these fics no have a written any, So I’m just really popping in out of no where.
But some hybrids can reproduce especially if the two species are closely related. For example, dogs can breed with wolves, or jackals and coyote’s ect.
So since Vulcans and Humans are closely related, as in they are both humanoid, I don’t believe it is that big of a leap to assume that a half vulcan half human hybrid would be able to produce offspring.
As a final note I would like to add that it is a half Vulcan we are dealing with, and as you said it is science fiction. As we do not actually have a race of Vulcans, and nothing has ever been said in the show about Spock being sterile, I think creative licensing allows for such an assumption.
TL;DRDonkeys and Horses are both Equideas just like Vulcans and Humans are both humanoids… Yet a mule is sterile, therefore, this argument is invalid as a Vulcan and a Human would be even less “relatively close” genetically,physically or otherwise, than a horse and a donkey.
Also, the examples you gave of hybrids being able to reproduce are the hybrids of very close species that have evolved differently from one another in the space of a few thousand years, (as opposed to several million years for species like horses/donkey/zebras, for example) not nearly enough time to make them from genetically incompatible species.
I’m pretty sure that two races from two different planets that haven’t had contacts with each other in more than a few million years count as being “closely related”… that’s genetically impossible. It has to be said: to be “close” is not to be physically similar but rather to be genetically similar. Which, I’m pretty sure, is not applicable for two alien species.
We could argue, however, that the offspring of a Romulan and a Vulcan could reproduce. That would make more sense as those two does, in fact, descend from the same ancestors.
Creative licensing and the fact that a lot of people apparently didn’t take attention during biology classes may be a “good” excuses for such a fallacies (as it is, after all, I presume that even the creators of Star Trek had assume that Spock would need a mate for the Pon-Farr and that if the parents of his promised had accepted, they would have assumed that there would be an offspring from the mating. This is my guess…) but it doesn’t take away my right to be exasperated by the lack of research that is being done. (even if the show does not indicate anything about this, it doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t take time to apply reality and our own knowledge to it, for fun, at least… after all, warps are more unlikely than Spock fathering a child) It is a pet peeves of mine I had to express. I just wish for good science in fanworks (or original ones, for that matter) :( There is no greater pleasure than to realize that someone paid attention to details like this.
I have to respect the creative minds, however, and I will admit that some of those works are enjoyable to read even if they don’t make sense
Thank you for joining the debate.
Edit: Made some research to be sure: Vulcans and Humans are believed to descent from the same humanoid race, which would make sense that a being such as Spock exist in the first place because a common ancestor could make the inbreed possible.
However, huge differences such as vulcan having copper-based blood where human are iron-based, the vulcan telepathic abilities, etc. indicates two separate species that are genetically more distinct from one another than, for example, a wolf and a dog.
… On an end note, this is super interesting thanks for sending me on hours-long search on vulcan genetics.
Fics where Spock has a child (with anyone, let’s not go over that weird shit that is mpreg)
How did you guys pass biology101?
Hybrids originating from different species can not reproduce? That’s like, basic facts… (did everyone just forgot about mules?)
On the other hand I have to admit that it is supposed to be science-fiction but, come on! at least indicate a good explanation for it!
it would have been bad if they had typo-ed “Lolgin”…
worst first message ever for the internet…
(via nataliesama)
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HOW DO YOU MAKE A GUY
(via gracilegarhi)
whenever kirk is off on a mission or something and spock is left in charge of the enterprise, mccoy just sort of
wanders in
it’s like he has this sense that spock is going to need someone to disagree with him in order to move the plot along in the next three minutes!!!
it’s great
#NURSE CHAPEL WATCH THE PATIENTS #MY SENSORS TELL ME THAT SPOCK IS BEING WRONG ON THE BRIDGE
(Source : kimcardassian, via gracilegarhi)
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